20 Ali Place Glenwood NSW 2768

Description
Demolition of existing dwelling house and associated structures, Torrens title subdivision of 1 lot into 6 residential lots, road construction of Poppy Way, and associated civil works.
Planning Authority
Blacktown City Council
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Reference number
DA-25-02117
Date sourced
We found this application on the planning authority's website on , 25 days ago. It was received by them earlier.
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Dear Planning and development officer, I just general searched in planning alerts in my are and found development in 20 li place and it show they sent 119 Notice to residents i spoke to my neighbour no one received any notice we are surprised and what going on .
as my view its totally against demography of ali place and no one care about safety of pedestrians
Ali Place has no pedestrian footpaths, requiring pedestrians to share the roadway with vehicles, and in my view the proposed interconnection with Poppy Way would significantly increase traffic and create unacceptable safety risks for pedestrians; therefore, I oppose the proposed road connection.

Jasbir singh
Delivered to Blacktown City Council

The proposed connection of linking Ali place with poppy way is only going to result in a nightmare when hundreds of cars accessing sikh temple will merge with almost same number of pedestrians and cyclists coming onto Ali place from the T Way as there is no designated walkway on Ali place.
Also the T way wall is going to be a blind spot for cars cyclists and pedestrians during merge to share Ali place.

The number of pedestrians increases during special events at the sikh temple and so will number of cars making their way to the temple avoiding meurants lane as it gets choked during special events.

Gurdev Singh
Delivered to Blacktown City Council

I am really against this road connectoon to Poppy Way construction .It will be a desaster already the Sickh temple creates a problem with the huge number of people and cars passing Meurants lane simetimes preventing us to get home .No don’t allow this .Enough is Enough .
Driss 10 Ali Place

Driss El Malki Berrada
Delivered to Blacktown City Council

It’s surprised that we haven’t received any notification on this development from council. There is no dedicated footpath on Ali Pl. It is going to hugely impact the small street if it is approved through poppy way. Buses can’t be seen coming the T way as it is blind spot. We request council not to approve this and find another way. It is already hard to reach on your own home when there is event at Sikh temple due to massive traffic near Ali Pl.

Shallu Makker
Delivered to Blacktown City Council

The proposed connection linking Ali Place with Poppy Way raises serious safety and traffic concerns. Ali Place has no designated pedestrian footpath, yet this connection would force hundreds of vehicles accessing the Sikh temple to merge at the same point as a high volume of pedestrians and cyclists entering from the T-Way. The T-Way wall creates a significant blind spot, making it extremely dangerous for motorists, cyclists, pedestrians, and buses attempting to merge onto Ali Place.
Traffic and pedestrian volumes increase substantially during special events at the Sikh temple. During these times, Meurants Lane already becomes heavily congested, causing more vehicles to divert through Ali Place, further compounding the issue. Residents already face significant difficulty accessing their own homes during such events, and this proposal would greatly worsen the situation.
It is also concerning that residents have not received any formal notification from Council regarding this development. Given the lack of pedestrian infrastructure, existing congestion, and serious visibility and safety risks, this proposal would have a major negative impact on this small residential street. We strongly request that Council does not approve this connection through Poppy Way and instead explore safer alternative options.

ranjith rajan
Delivered to Blacktown City Council

I don't object this development as long as the subdivision is for residential property.

The whinging by the people living around is not based on sound engineering judgement or understanding of the design plan submitted.

1. Glenwood has multiple places with similar street connection. This is not new or unique.
2. The whinging about pedestrian entering from Tway is also baseless because we had multiple similar entry point from Tway onto road inside Glenwood and this is no different. Just look at Hoya way in Glenwood, we have similar existing entry point into Glenwood from Tway without any dedicated pedestrian walkway along Hoya Way. Also, important to note that Tway pedestrian aren't coming out in 100s per minute so the arguments are baseless that it creates some sort of massive issues by those living on Ali place. Clear line of sight, Night light and signage is all it needs.

As long as development is for residential building, I don't have any objection.

John Smith
Delivered to Blacktown City Council

Although we are occupants, we speak on behalf of ourselves, having lived here for the past two years, as well as the close-knit community of Ali Place, Glenwood. We received no notice as occupants and were only informed through neighbours of the proposal.

Ali Place currently allows for single-lane traffic only. Vehicles must regularly pull to the side to allow opposing traffic to pass. There is no footpath to ensure the safety of pedestrians who walk to and from the bus stop and the temple.

The community of Ali Place, Glenwood is a wonderful one. Residents are considerate and understanding of the limited space for car parking and access, and everyone is mindful of parking on the kerb in a way that does not obstruct the movement of residents or vehicles.

During major events, the road becomes a busy pedestrian thoroughfare for elderly and younger members of the Blacktown community travelling between the bus stop, the highway and the temple. The safety of this route is not due to infrastructure, as there is no footpath, but rather because the residents of Ali Place collectively ensure the cul-de-sac remains a safe environment. The road already struggles to accommodate the vehicles of current residents, let alone additional traffic or increased use during events. When events are held, residents ACTIVELY avoid using the road unless necessary to maintain safety within the community.

For the reasons outlined below, we strongly believe that the proposed road extension from Ali Place to Poppy Lane is not a suitable option.

1. Road Capacity
Ali Place currently only accommodates one direction of traffic at a time, with vehicles weaving between parked cars and moving less than 50km/h to access homes. This occurs even on regular days outside peak or event periods. Ali Place does not even have an active street sign, so those using it now are purely residents and still face risks.

2. Heavy Pedestrian Traffic
There is significant pedestrian traffic from Meurants Lane to the highway via the footpath at the end of Ali Place. As there is no footpath within Ali Place itself, residents take care to park responsibly and keep the road clear for pedestrians walking to and from the temple.
Recently, an elderly woman stopped me outside my home and asked for a lift to the temple, as she had been walking from the bus stop. I drove her from Ali Place to the temple car park. If an increase in traffic, let alone two-way traffic were introduced, pedestrians like her would be placed at considerable risk. The majority of pedestrians using Ali Place are elderly and rely on the existing low-traffic conditions for their safety.

3. Event Gridlock
During major events, Meurants Lane is often closed, which includes access to Ali Place. When it is not fully closed, traffic is carefully managed by directing vehicles out one exit and back through Maurents Lane to maintain safety and traffic flow.
Changing this arrangement by connecting Ali Place to Poppy Lane would significantly increase traffic volume and the likelihood of congestion and accidents, due to the lack of adequate space and direct traffic flow.

In conclusion, Ali Place is not designed to accommodate increased traffic or function as a connecting roadway. Extending the road to Poppy Lane would compromise pedestrian safety, disrupt the existing community, and create unnecessary traffic and safety risks.

We respectfully request that this proposal be reconsidered in favour of solutions that prioritise resident safety and preserve the integrity and safety of the community.

We are not opposed to new resident housing, but the road extension is not the solution. The planning for 6 houses on that property could have easily been reviewed to include a singular private shared road as the property is large enough to
accommodate. The reason for the connecting roadway is purely based on money making not safety. Yes, this solution has worked in other locations, but those locations were not less than 500 metres from an extremely busy local Temple.

Although we may not be the owners or live here forever, it is important to understand the current state of the road use and risk management associated. Feel free to visit when an event is on and review the risk matrix then.

The person above citing the traffic is not 100 cars per minute, must consider the current occupancy of the temple car park and surrounding area, review the temple event council numbers vs the general daily use.

Yours sincerely,
Occupants of of 14 Ali Place, Glenwood

Gum & Milligan
Delivered to Blacktown City Council

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